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First of all I want to thank Andy Labrow for helping me out
on this one. It has always been a secret wish for me to interview
my favourite prog/sympho singer Peter Nicholls, the lead singer
of IQ.
In my review of the album "The Seventh House" I
wrote the following:
"After the great second album "The Wake" the singer
Peter Nicholls left the band. For the fans of that early time,
who visited their concerts (including me) it was a big shock.
Something with the same impact as when Peter Gabriel left Genesis
some years earlier. Also the music changed a little bit then,
they tried to be more commercial. The magic was gone, and we
all hoped Peter would return sometime. Years and a couple of
albums later, the miracle happened. Peter Nicholls joined the
band again, and the fans were awaiting the new album with great
eager. That album was called "Ever" and the band had
that magic again."

Photo: Andy Labrow
Can you tell me how you look back on
the early days of IQ... the years without IQ... and your return
with the incredible "Ever" album?
Peter: The early years were a mixture of elation and frustration,
highs and lows. We achieved a lot together in the years from
1982 to 1985, and I'm still very proud of most of the work we
did together. The mistake we made was living in each other's
pockets too much, I think. We had no money and for a long time
we all (with the exception of Paul) shared a small flat in north
London which put an enormous strain on our relationships and
played a large part in my eventual decision to leave. We spent
an awful lot of time and energy in travelling all around Britain,
playing to anyone who listen to us, and it was a laborious, often
depressing, process but there was no other way to do it. We were
learning our craft, getting used to playing together and learning
how to deliver a performance. I'm the first to admit I wasn't
a great performer early on but I had to start somewhere and we
all learnt fast. There were lots of magical times...playing at
The Marquee was always wonderful.
After I'd left the band I missed it quite a lot, though I devoted
all my musical energies to Niadem's Ghost for a couple of years
which also had its fair share of frustrations though I really
enjoyed the music we made together.
Getting back with IQ in 1990 happened very naturally, mostly
as a result of Les Marshall dying. His death really hit us hard
and made us appreciate our friendships all the more. We were
able to put a lot of our misunderstandings behind us and get
back to making music together. Les was a very important figure
in the whole story.
Andy told me you are like me a big
fan of the "Peter Gabriel
era" of Genesis. Do you think Genesis or other bands of
the seventies influenced the development of the IQ sound?
Peter: Without doubt. Mike and I met at a Genesis gig in 1976
and there's no question that their music had a profound influence
on us. Mike and Martin were also really into Yes, though I was
never a fan, and certainly that kind of symphonic, almost orchestral,
approach has influenced the music they write together. To start
with, IQ was very much the sum of its influences and there's
no shame in that. The point is that the music we each listened
to in our formative years gave us the impetus to create something
of our own which has proved to be popular around the world so
I'm very comfortable with owning up to influences. Everybody
rips off somebody. What set us apart from other bands in the
early days, and still now, I think, is the fact that we also
love lots of different kinds of music and those elements have
also crept into our music over the years.
With "Subterranea" IQ reached a bigger audience with lots of new fans.
Was it difficult to start composing for a new album, when expectations had grown
to immense proportions after this "killer" album?
Peter: Yes, I was very nervous about following 'Subterranea'. We probably all
were, if we're honest. From a practical point of view, 'The Seventh House'
was a very difficult album to make in terms of all band members finding time
to do it. Certain members were pushing for us to do it more than others. I
wasn't convinced by a lot of the music when we were working on it but I must
admit the title track and 'Guiding Light' are definitely among our very best
tracks. 'Subterranea' was a huge highpoint for me personally. I loved the whole
project, it was the kind of thing I'd always dreamed of being involved in.
How were the reviews
for "The Seventh House", and what did you learn
from it? Is the road to the new album a different one?
Peter: We had universally positive reviews which surprised me at the time.
I've heard from quite a few people that it's their favourite IQ album, that
they couldn't get into 'Subterranea'. It's difficult to say how the new album
will shape up. At the moment, we have a subject matter in mind which isn't
to say it will necessarily be another concept album, just that the songs might
look at similar themes but from different angles. We're still trying out ideas
and finding our feet with the new material but we've played some new stuff
live and it feels good.
The last gig in Holland (Zoetermeer, 13-09-2003) was the best
IQ gig I ever witnessed. The sound was great (the volume not
too high!) and your voice was in great shape that evening. How
did you experience this gig?
Peter: Thank you! I think if I'd started to learn brain surgery 20 years
ago I'd hope to be better now than I was when I started, and it's like that
with singing. I was pretty lousy when I first began singing but I've improved
a lot over the years and I'm more confident about my voice now. I always
used to get ridiculously nervous before gigs, so much so that I usually caught
a cold and couldn't sing properly. I still get really nervous now but nothing
like I used to and I can use that nervousness as an energy for the performance.
I enjoy gigs a lot more now and De Boerderij is always a great venue for
us to play.
"The Darkest Hour" and especially "The Seventh House" are
very special to me. "The Seventh House" was for me the highlight
of the evening. Are those songs also special to you?
Peter: Absolutely. For me, the best IQ songs are the emotional ones. The
end of 'The Darkest Hour' was written about my father who died several
years ago and he's always with me when I sing that song live. 'The Seventh
House' is obviously a very emotional track, too. These songs, and others
like 'Headlong' and 'The Narrow Margin', are the ones where I can lose
myself in the music and they represent our best work. I always strive for
that shiver-down-the-spine moment.
IQ was playing some new themes of the forthcoming album that
evening. In my opinion the vocal melodies were very delicate
and melodic. But the band played also some complex themes. Are
you happy with the reactions of the audiences of the mini European
Tour?
Peter: As far as I can tell, people were very interested to hear our
new ideas and both the tracks we played were well received. I don't think
you ever get much more than a vague impression from listening to new
music for the first time, especially this kind of music which can be
quite complex and not particularly immediate, but yes we were encouraged
by the reactions from the audiences, definitely. It really helps us to
be able to test new material in a live setting.
Can you tell us something more about the new album?
Peter: At this stage, no I can't, to be honest. It feels quite
dark, a little more introspective, but it's unfolding all the
time. Sometimes things take us by surprise, almost as if the
album is writing itself somehow.
How is an IQ song born... and can you describe the path it
has to take (recording process)... to become a track on a new
IQ album?
Peter: Traditionally, it starts with a musical idea, which can come
from anyone. Mike and Martin have been the biggest writers over the
years but John is contributing more now and there have been tracks
like 'Out Of Nowhere' and 'King Of Fools' which started out as ideas
of mine. If I'm writing on my own I tend to come up with lyrics and
melodies at the same time but in an IQ context I generally write lyrics
to fit the music. Vocal melodies usually come before the lyrics. In
the early days the music and lyrics weren't always welded together
too successfully but on 'Subterranea' we started talking about the
kind of track we wanted to write before we wrote it because there was
a particular atmosphere we wanted to convey or a specific part of the
story that needed to be narrated.
How do the lyrics of a new IQ song develop? What is your inspiration?
Peter: I keep a book with me most of time which I use for jotting
down scraps of lyrics and possible titles. Inspiration can
come from anywhere, I can never predict where it's going to
come from. If I'm writing for something specific, for example
on 'Subterranea' where we were telling a story, my approach
is slightly different in that I'm writing more narratively
whereas generally I adopt a more impressionistic approach,
expressing my feelings about something.
Is the band still working on a new
version of "Tales from the lush attic"?
Peter: Yes, we're looking to release this in 2004, although it's
been shelved temporarily so that we can concentrate on the
new studio album. Martin has pretty much completed all the
keyboards and I think the next thing to be recorded will be
the drums. The beauty of this project is that we can all work
on it individually as time permits. We'll probably also include
a re-recorded version of 'Wintertell' which I wrote at the
time but was rejected as being 'too personal'. It was replaced
with Martin's piano solo 'My Baby Treats Me Right...'!
The band released an "Official Bootleg" of
a gig in Aschaffenburg (Germany). Will there be more releases
in the near future? And what were the reasons to treat the
fans on this great live show?
Peter: This is an ongoing project. There's no release schedule but
there will definitely be other releases in the series. It's a question
of sorting through boxes and boxes of tapes, trying to find good
recordings to release. The problem with early recordings is that
they're generally not great quality. One option would be to compile
a disc of rarely performed live tracks, though there is an argument
that fans would prefer to have complete shows rather than a compilation
of songs sourced from different gigs. Over the years I've maintained
the band archive of live tapes and videos. There's no shortage of
material to choose from!
We had the Aschaffenburg recording on multi-track so Mike was able
to mix it properly. In fact it's a combination of soundboard and
audience recordings of the same show. Earlier gigs will have to be
transferred direct from original audience recordings on cassette.
Are you also listening to other prog bands, or are you afraid
to be influenced by them?
Peter: In all honesty, I'm really not that interested in other
prog bands, what you might call our contemporaries. Partly that's
because, as you say, I don't want to be subconsciously influenced
by something I hear but also because not much of what I hear sounds
very exciting. As a genre, progressive rock is often in danger
of repeating itself and getting more diluted all the time. If people
are into it that's fine and of course I'm delighted that people
still want to listen to what we do but, to my ears, a lot of the
music out there sounds like stuff I've heard before. I'm sure some
people will say that about IQ, and I don't have a problem with
that because you can't please everybody, but some of these bands
just leave me cold...mentioning no names!
Do you like classical music?
Peter: I do, though I don't listen to it too often. My father
was a big fan of classical music and jazz so I grew up in a
house where that music was always being played. I love 'The
Planets' by Holst and I recently saw a live production of 'Rigoletto'
which was excellent.

Photo: Andy Labrow
Do you still have time to draw or paint?
Peter: I draw very occasionally but nothing like I used to or
would like to. Having a full time job and a young daughter
means that free time is at a premium these days, not enough
hours in the day. I used to draw constantly. As a child I was
always surrounded by books, comics and pens. One of these days
I intend to do some more artwork for a future IQ release but
it's really hard finding time to just sit down and do it.
You must have had a lot of fun with
the band when you were working on the pictures and text of
the "end titles" of the last gigs. The ever present
humour at IQ gigs... is this kind of counterpart to the more
serious lyrics of the IQ songs?
Peter: I suppose so. If there's one thing that's kept IQ together
over the years it's been our sense of humour. Mike especially
is known for his humour. He, Cookie and I are still big Monty
Python fans and, despite ourselves, we keep quoting Python when
we're together, it's part of who we are. We argue a lot when
we're writing (especially Mike and Martin!) and things can get
pretty tense when there are several differences of opinion but
we've always been able to have a laugh. We take the music seriously
and present it seriously but the 'outro' film at the end of the
gigs is a way of showing that we still have a sense of humour.
Dene Wilby, who assembles all that film footage so brilliantly,
does a fantastic job. We're extremely fortunate in having such
a talented group of people who work with us.
The Abba thing... is this only coming from Mike's mind?
Peter: No, I love Abba, too. 'Dancing Queen' is a classic pop
track! Abba and Madonna are unlikely encore choices for a progressive
band but we love pop music and it gives us the chance to relax
a little on stage. We've always enjoyed playing unexpected cover
versions as encores.
The band has always had a big and loyal fan base in Holland,
but what about all the other countries in the world (England,
Spain etc...)?
Peter: Our following in Europe has always been very good, with
Holland probably being our strongest territory, but also Italy,
Germany and France. I'm delighted to say we still have a very
loyal fan base in the UK, not only people who've been with us
for years but also new fans, people who are discovering us all
the time which, of course, is very healthy. I was genuinely surprised
at the level of support in the USA and South America where the
fans are incredibly enthusiastic. We also have our very own tribute
band in Japan, called IQ-J!
Do you think there has been a kind of prog revival the last
two years?
Peter: I'm not aware of one, though I must admit I was very surprised
when The Astoria in London organised Progeny, a two-day progressive
rock festival, this month. We headlined the first night and it
was a good experience for us. Good also to see Pallas again after
about 20 years! Of our early '80s 'rivals', I always liked them
and Twelfth Night the best. The line-up for the festival was
interesting, not necessarily always what I would have thought
of as progressive, but it was definitely a festival that flew
in the face of fashion! Maybe interest in this music is building
again.
Do you see a bright future for progressive music or do you
think the scene will always be small?
Peter: I think it will always be an area of specialist interest.
Do you also have a problem with the
fact that people who describe your music want to put everything
in a "box"? I mean, in the early days we spoke
only about Symphonic Rock music. Now it seems a kind of streaming
inside the progressive rock. I like epic Symphonic Rock songs
which I find often not progressive at all, but I love to listen
to them. And some music which I find very progressive I find
not suitable to listen to very often.
Peter: The one term I can never understand, and it's used mostly
in the USA, is neo-prog. It seems to me it's used in a derogatory
way, as if we're not being truly progressive, in other words
re-hashing as much as possible the music from the '70s, using
old equipment. We've never been about that. We take that music
as a starting point, it was our early influence, but we've always
tried to move forward from there, making our music viable now,
not just a remake of what's gone before. Personally, I can't
see the point of repeating another band's music (unless it's
a band like The Musical Box who recreate the sound and look of
Genesis to perfection). We all find it frustrating when some
critics are more concerned with applying labels than with actually
listening to the music on its own merits.
How would you describe the music of IQ?
Peter: We've always described ourselves as being a progressive
rock band. We've been deeply unfashionable because of that
but that's what we are. Who can say what's truly progressive
anymore? It's a generic term which describes the music we
play.
Do you want to say something to the readers of progVisions?
Peter: Well, thanks to all of you for your continued support
and interest. I'm very proud of the fact that IQ now has a
22-year history, that's quite an achievement. We've outlasted
many, many bands and are still making great music together.
Thanks for your time.
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